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Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:06 pm
by Prologue
Holy carp Cobra's setup is good. But if you say this isn't that good for SX I would like to see what you think is good!

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:43 pm
by AnswerRacing
Whats a good setup for seat bouncing. I've seen videos and they can do it really good and i cant.

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:13 pm
by totorox
Here's my setup, i'm posting it only now because I think it's not bad actually, i got better results, more consistent races from recent times.(without a lot of crashes). These are 'middle' settings, not bad in SX and in bumpy MX. Some parts was based from an old Stocksy setting. But remember i'm using a Joystick and Pedals, maybe you'll have to adjust some settings...
I'll be honored if you try them and happier if you can give me your feelings to get them better. If you have some troubles with other controlers, begin to raise roll_damping and steering_damping, maybe lowering roll_limit_angle too.
I made them to get a maximum freedom on my bike and simulation feelings. Even if recently I enable brakes anti-lock, to be more consistent while racing I keep a good feeling. Remember, I use internal view, try my settings :) (Look when you're entering a race, you can check the well positioning of the head view in other rider's helmet.)

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bike=yz250f(2009)
name=MXF Totorox #178
number=178
rider_texture=ThorProtectorJacquard-Red T10 red
head_texture=default
bike_texture=2010f-One Industries Hurricane
wheel_texture=HD-EXCEL Black Full
stability=17.000000
leveling=28.000000
roll_damping=46.500000
roll_limit_angle=58.000000
roll_limit_factor=3.000000
steering_damping=47.000000
steering_strength=99.000000
max_steering_force=972.700012
direct_steering=1.000000
slow_damping_speed=35.000000
slow_damping_factor=1.500000
land_damping_falloff=0.168750
land_damping_factor=1.675000
arcade=No
front_brake=Antilock
rear_brake=Antilock
stop_wheelies=No
auto_shift=No
auto_dab=Yes
sticky_dab=No
reverse_steering=Yes
lean_indicator=No
auto_clutch_rpms=3900.000000
brake_torque=420.000000
rear_brake_torque=400.000000
max_dab_speed=20.000000
front_sprocket_adjustment=-1.000000
rear_sprocket_adjustment=2.000000
fork_compression_adjustment=72.000000
fork_rebound_adjustment=67.000000
fork_spring_rate_adjustment=50.000000
fork_preload_adjustment=39.000000
fork_oil_level_adjustment=54.000000
shock_compression_adjustment=60.000000
shock_rebound_adjustment=55.000000
shock_spring_rate_adjustment=50.000000
shock_preload_adjustment=50.000000
rider_yspring=85.000000
rider_ydamping=74.000000
rider_zspring=75.000000
rider_zdamping=8.000000
rider_mass_distribution=0.480000
Internal view setting :
fov=113.000000
first_person_height=0.750000
first_person_angle=8.000000


Reminder : Best way to try settings is to go in your MXS personnal data folder. All settings are in a text file named "config." file.
1) Begin to backup it or copy it before making changes on it, with another name : config.2010.10.30(stocksy_base) for sample.
2) Then you can use any text editor to read config. file content, like Notepad with Windows, but there's a lot of better free editor like Notepad++.
(If you can't see the config. file, go into 'display settings' tab from 'folder options' page in 'tools' menu of file explorer window - ["win key"+E] to open explorer -. Then disable 'Hide know file type extension' to be abble to show the config. file. (approximative translations of menu and options name, sorry)
3) You can now select part of config. file content you want to try, then copy it into memory. I hope you know the copy/paste feature [ctrl+C]/[ctrl+V]... You can now select same part in destination config. file, then use paste to overwrite content. Each config. file use same order. You can select from line you want, to line you want the values changes and keep others unmodified (your name, number, controler config, etc).

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:28 am
by RV3
thanks man i'l have to give it a go sometime :)

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:16 pm
by WhMx179
is there a forum that explains settings such as Leveling, Roll Damping Roll Limit Angle Roll Limit FactorSteering Damping, etc... ?
that would be alot of help

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:30 pm
by yzmxer608
http://mxsimulator.com/benchracing3/vie ... 21#p121221 The Setup App by Servatis also explains it. It's stuff like this that would fit perfect in an info topic. If no one makes one I might have to make something, if people agree it would be a good thing to have.

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:07 am
by WhMx179
okay thanks for the link man

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:14 pm
by MX196
Here are my 3.

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:12 pm
by RV3
i got a new one yas may like, turns good yet still stable over bumps. thanks to jlv for telling me the riders weight to work my spring rates around.

stability=20.000000
leveling=20.000000
roll_damping=63.000000
roll_limit_angle=45.000000
roll_limit_factor=6.000000
steering_damping=48.000000
steering_strength=84.000000
max_steering_force=500.000000
direct_steering=0.750000
slow_damping_speed=40.000000
slow_damping_factor=2.500000
land_damping_falloff=0.190000
land_damping_factor=3.000000
auto_clutch_rpms=4999.000000
brake_torque=492.399994
rear_brake_torque=217.500000
max_dab_speed=20.000000
fork_compression_adjustment=56.500000
fork_rebound_adjustment=46.500000
fork_spring_rate_adjustment=45.000000
fork_preload_adjustment=43.000000
fork_oil_level_adjustment=25.000000
shock_compression_adjustment=40.000000
shock_rebound_adjustment=66.000000
shock_spring_rate_adjustment=50.000000
shock_preload_adjustment=23.000000
front_sprocket_adjustment=0.000000
rear_sprocket_adjustment=1.080000
rider_yspring=54.000000
rider_ydamping=54.000000
rider_zspring=54.000000
rider_zdamping=54.000000
rider_mass_distribution=0.490000

let me know what yas think. cheers

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:25 pm
by ShackAttack12
I think JLV mentioned that all the bikes in the game have suspension modeled around the RM 125. He also mentioned that the rider is 150lbs.

If you take these parameters and plug them into Race Tech's spring calculator, you get:

Motocross
Front: 0.42kg/mm (stock)
Rear: 4.6kg/mm (stock)

Supercross
Front: 0.43kg/mm
Rear: 4.72kg/mm

I've tried these spring rates in the game and it seems to work pretty well. For 250f's, since they are 5-10lb heavier (something like that), add 0.01kg/mm to the fork and 0.10kg/mm to the shock.

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:42 pm
by RV3
yea i tried the prefers softer valving search thru the race tech calculator for a rmz 250f 2009, would i be better to search in rm125 instead u reckon? i kind of adjusted the preload they recommended lower for the shock and lowered the spring rate a bit. and raised the front spring rate abit too to get it feeling like i wanted. are you using race techs spring rates at the moment aswell?

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:46 pm
by ShackAttack12
RV3 wrote:yea i tried the prefers softer valving search thru the race tech calculator for a rmz 250f 2009, would i be better to search in rm125 instead u reckon? i kind of adjusted the preload they recommended lower for the shock and lowered the spring rate a bit. and raised the front spring rate abit too to get it feeling like i wanted. are you using race techs spring rates at the moment aswell?
For some of the outdoor races, i was using 0.42kg/mm front and 4.60kg/mm rear, with low compression damping and medium rebound damping.

For supercross, well, that's a whole different animal. General rule is extra stiff in the forks, and soft in the back.

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:03 pm
by RV3
thanks man i'm still trying to setup a sx 1 from there rates, not wrong it's a whole different animal. haha let me know if u like it if u get the time to try it. take it easy

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:42 pm
by ShackAttack12
Its probably a good idea to take note of what spring rates the pro's are using for supercross..... IE: look at their suspension stickers.

For example, Chad Reed was using a 0.52kg/mm fork spring on his bike. (That's a 100 setting in the game)

Re: YOUR SETUP

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:33 pm
by Armadijl
Thnx for the tips shack, i gonna try and figure out if i can get myself good setup :D